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Posted Sat May 31, 2008 5:58 pm...
Think about what a soul is.
Do you believe you have a soul?
Do animals?
Is it possible to sell your soul?
Have you ever met anyone you felt didn’t have a soul?


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Posted Sat May 31, 2008 8:11 pm...
I'll bite.  This is only MY opinion, but, ...
For me, the soul is the "battery" that lights us up.  It is the personal energy source that gives us life, that charges up the brain and nervous system which gives us animation and without which we would be lifeless.  I believe that all living things from humans to animals to plants have a soul, because, in my opinion, without a soul, nothing can live.  Once the soul has exited the body, it (the body) can no longer live.  For me, a coma simply means that the soul is still connected in some way to the body. It is not existent within the body, but has been "dislocated".  
I don't believe that one can "sell" one's soul.  Since the soul is a source of energy, and our afterlife depends upon the lessons we have learned in our physical bodies, and since there is no "devil" standing there rubbing his hands together over our eternal souls, there is no buying and selling of souls as if we were some sort of commodity.
I have never met anyone that claimed not to have a soul, and I don't believe that I shall ever meet anyone without a soul for the above stated reasons.   Perhaps a person would claim not to have a soul in order to excuse whatever harmful actions he/she is making in this life in order to deny the bad karma that would accompany such behavior.


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Posted Sat May 31, 2008 9:35 pm...
*Realeyez stumbles over the computer in a complete state of lethargy and fatigue and, have-assed, mumbles a thought that made a much more valid point the first time she thought it...*

I think people such as celebrities have sold their souls.  To whom? The media. How so? They've given up their chance at breaking associations in order to grow and evolve from that which has defined them. How can you know your true self when you're mostly concerned with the "looking glass self", how we believe others see us, evident by the massive amounts of time and money spent on material items, primping, practicing poses for the camera...for what? Money and material possessions, glamour, fame, etc...

An interviewer asked J-Lo if it's different trying to get ready (hair, make up, etc.) now with a baby. She said no, the baby just sits on my lap.  :roll:
Brad and Angelina have 3 nannies because, apparently, raising kids is a 24-hr a day job.  :roll:  :roll:

Seems to me they may be missing some life lessons being thrown their way. Or maybe they're just not ready for the lessons, or to learn...

Or maybe instead of selling their souls, they've sold the opportunity to refine their souls because they'll most likely never peal away enough layers to get where they can examine themselves as they truly are in a moment, without material possession, out-of-this-world ego massages, shooing away the camera men like gnats in a field - what a bother!, etc.

They are, of course, not the only classification of human to be stuck in this rut. But they're a pretty blatant example.

So I guess if a soul is something that can be refined, then I believe I have a soul. I guess I'd define it off the cuff now as the part of myself that originated from the everything and has the limitations and perameters of my physical being to experience, well, experiences through. That part of me which is "I am", "I exist", before applying perception and bias to the statement ("I am hungry", "I am tired"...oooh, today oh so tired...). "I am". Just like God said lol. That's my soul.

Maybe it's just the host for the gum on the bottom of my flip flop...

Just adding fuel to this fire. This is a half-baked rambling based on my own views of heaven and hell being earthly states of being.

By the way, something ate my father's soul, and it is quite feasible that his body continues to live powered by another energy force that overtook it. So I suppose I might think that everything, or everyone at least, has a soul - it just might not be the one they came into being in this realm with.


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Posted Sat May 31, 2008 10:46 pm...
Soul? A stange word, with to many meanings. I have some type of engery, such as animals, trees, rocks, dirt, wind. A cognizant energy? I don't know. You can't "sell" such as that. You may think you can. When I die will there be something? Will there be nothing? At that point will I care?
All I can do is live the best I can, care for my fellow human beings, live, love, learn, feel, see, and help as I can. The rest, well, not something I will worry about now.

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Posted Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:30 pm...
when I'm sending out energy, I've found the easiest way for me to make it hit it's mark is to visualize it as light, I pull it from a core inside of me, let it well in my fingertips for a bit, and then send it on it's way.   I think that core is my soul.  I pull my strength and serenity from it.  dig deep for it when I need an extra push of energy to get something done.  
I believe my soul's on about it's third life. And I do believe animals have souls.
It cannot be sold, it's woven into your flesh, ingrained in the person you are, and when it leaves you, the body dies, and the person that you were in many ways lives in summerland until it gets reborn in another fleshly being.   while you can't take it out of your body, I do believe that it can either die or at least go very dormant inside of someone. In greece I saw street dogs emaciated, and picked on and harassed by stronger companions to the point that they wouldn't even lift their muzzle when you dropped food beside them because they knew a stronger dog would fight them for it. They would look up at you, but their eyes were missing something.  they had stopped caring.  I saw one that had been taken in, bathed, and got several regular meals a day and a lot of love.  It was still missing that spark.  I believe that once that dog dies, it's soul will be gone, not reborn into another.  
and I could be wrong, but since a soul is your energy, your life force as it were, I think that being an empath is about two souls communicating, and having hosts sensitive enough to pick up on their conversations.  
... hmm I don't think I've ever really thought this much about a soul... good to get me thinking!
any ways, there are my opinions,
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Posted Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:33 pm...
Joy! I get to form an opinion! ^_^ A rare thing for me. hmm.

Do I have a soul? That depends on who you talk to. lol. just kidding. I do though it's probably a little scarred and cracked here or there.

Do Animals?  Yup. If they didn't how could they show emotion and come right back to you after you've scolded them

Is it possible to sell your soul?  In a sense yes, doing something that really goes against your morals is an example.

Have you ever met anyone you felt didn't have a soul? *nods* One of my friend's ex's People that are abusive have no souls or common sense

Personal Thoughts on the Soul: My personal opinion is the heart and the soul are pretty much the same thing. The heart is the physical representation of the soul and the Soul the spiritual representation of the heart. They can conflict at times just the same as anything else, but normally a conclusion or at the very least a compromise is reached for what is best for that person.


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Posted Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:07 pm...
Okay . I am beside myself trying to start a NEW thread, so I've decided to butt into this thread, as in an odd way, I think it connects with what it is I would like to ask of you.

As well as this site, I am also a member of thoughts.com.  I have been requested to "help" another member of thoughts, however, her comments are WAY out of my league! ... would any of you wish to add your comments to her blog entry, or may I invite her to join pagan living.

Again, I am sorry for butting into this thread, please forgive me.  I would like to either paste her URL or her blog entry here.  May I?

Thank you in advance for your comments.
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Posted Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:18 pm...
Valerie Jean,  I would just start a separate thread for your your question.  We will be happy to attempt to answer it. Smile
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Posted Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:28 pm...
Oh my, I do feel so silly,  I JUST found the button "New Topic" ... so yes of course I will do that !!! ... I just could not see the dang thing, for the life me, before now ... I guess I needed that extra cup of coffee    :oops:
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Posted Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:18 pm...
I believe that my soul is the divine light that burns inside me.  Its the individual consiousness that connects me to the universal and cosmos consiousness.  It is my energy, my guidance and my serenity.  When I meditate, I re-connect with my soul - excluding all outside influences - oneness with myself and connectedness to the universe.

I believe that animals have souls, that stay with your soul after physical death of their body, and ascend to the one together - as we have in previous lifetimes.  I do not believe that animal souls re-incarnate.  

I believe that we incarnate with the same group of souls in each life time, so when we meet someone in this lifetime that seems familiar to us, we have had encountered these souls in previous lives.  This is the case with people we have instant dislikes/likes with - karmic echo's of previous lifetimes.  Where karma has been collected, positive or negative, over lifetimes, the soul we connected with will keep presenting themselves to us until the karmic balance is restored, and then we ascend.

I also believe that where psychological/psychiatric problems are apparent, there can be more than one soul in one body.  Examples of this would be split or multiple personality problems and hearing voices.  I believe that, just before physical birth - the time when the soul drops into the body, a negative soul can force itself into a body alongside a normal soul - and stay with the host soul for that lifetime, or at least until the soul recognises that it is hosting a parasite and takes the required action.  A negative soul is just experiencing negativity - we all balance out in the end,  thats what its all about - growth and experience

I also believe that each soul will experience every type of existence in human form.  We will incarnate as man, woman, lover, fighter, murderer, lifesaver, rapist, peacemaker, experience all forms of religion, be born into disabled/diseased body etc...

until we get it and learn everything we need to learn and ascend

It is not possible to sell your soul

these are my beliefs


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